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[讨论] 新手练五边,发几张降落失败图,同时求指教~~~

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发表于 2011-10-27 18:17:18 | 显示全部楼层
玩A-10C还用迅雷下东西啊,电脑真N。
发表于 2011-10-27 18:58:28 | 显示全部楼层
还是上杆吧,对你的战斗水平绝对有提高
发表于 2011-10-27 19:59:22 | 显示全部楼层
玩模拟飞行还是上杆吧,乐趣多多!
发表于 2011-10-27 20:06:57 | 显示全部楼层
…For 7…的7好像是距离7海里的意思
发表于 2011-10-27 22:20:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Ragnarok 于 2011-10-27 22:39 编辑
bryce28905 发表于 2011-10-27 17:11
小弟还有一事不明,ILS降落程序在向塔台请求inbound时,塔台回复head 225 for 7,QFE28```(记不太清了),这 ...

7是7海里, QFE28是机场地面气压是28英寸汞柱,可以调整气压计。这些属于仪表飞行术语。仪表飞行很复杂,哦不,仪表飞行极其复杂。

The altimeter setting in aviation, set either QNH or QFE, is another atmospheric pressure reduced to sea level, but the method of making this reduction differs slightly.

QNH
    The barometric altimeter setting that will cause the altimeter to read airfield elevation when on the airfield. In ISA temperature conditions the altimeter will read altitude above mean sea level in the vicinity of the airfield
QFE
    The barometric altimeter setting that will cause an altimeter to read zero when at the reference datum of a particular airfield (in general, a runway threshold). In ISA temperature conditions the altimeter will read height above the datum in the vicinity of the airfield.

QFE and QNH are arbitrary Q codes rather than abbreviations, but the mnemonics "Nautical Height" (for QNH) and "Field Elevation" (for QFE) are often used by pilots to distinguish them.

Average sea-level pressure is 101.325 kPa (1013.25 mbar, or hPa) or 29.921 inches of mercury (inHg) or 760 millimeters (mmHg). In aviation weather reports (METAR), QNH is transmitted around the world in millibars or hectopascals (1 millibar = 1 hectopascal), except in the United States, Canada, and Colombia where it is reported in inches (to two decimal places) of mercury. (The United States and Canada also report sea level pressure SLP, which is reduced to sea level by a different method, in the remarks section, not an internationally transmitted part of the code, in hectopascals or millibars.[5] However, in Canada's public weather reports, sea level pressure is instead reported in kilopascals [1], while Environment Canada's standard unit of pressure is the same [2] [3].) In the weather code, three digits are all that is needed; decimal points and the one or two most significant digits are omitted: 1013.2 mbar or 101.32 kPa is transmitted as 132; 1000.0 mbar or 100.00 kPa is transmitted as 000; 998.7 mbar or 99.87 kPa is transmitted as 987; etc. The highest sea-level pressure on Earth occurs in Siberia, where the Siberian High often attains a sea-level pressure above 1050.0 mbar. The lowest measurable sea-level pressure is found at the centers of tropical cyclones and tornadoes.


发表于 2011-10-28 00:03:18 | 显示全部楼层
Ragnarok 发表于 2011-10-27 08:20
7是7海里, QFE28是机场地面气压是28英寸汞柱,可以调整气压计。这些属于仪表飞行术语。仪表飞行很复杂, ...

仪表飞行不复杂,仪表程序也不复杂。有规可循的都不复杂。

文里的METAR, QNH,QFE包括QNE,TAF,Area Forecast, NOTAM, PIREP, AIRMET , SIGMET等等等等,在目视飞行的培训阶段就已经完成,这些东西无论仪表和目视都需要掌握....
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-28 00:35:02 | 显示全部楼层
Ragnarok 发表于 2011-10-27 22:20
7是7海里, QFE28是机场地面气压是28英寸汞柱,可以调整气压计。这些属于仪表飞行术语。仪表飞行很复杂, ...

知道啦····谢谢你啦~~

你引用的资料看起来像是来自于飞行教材,而非模拟飞行教程,你是飞行员吗?··
发表于 2011-10-28 08:51:47 | 显示全部楼层
bryce28905 发表于 2011-10-28 00:35
知道啦····谢谢你啦~~

你引用的资料看起来像是来自于飞行教材,而非模拟飞行教程,你是飞行员吗? ...

我希望我是,来自百科全书。单手杆会导致身体不对称、战斗中无法顾及油门、缺乏四向开关、严重降低飞行体验,即使是昂贵的单手杆。1024的精度如果能完全发挥的话够用,可是很多杆子很不稳定,实际精度可能只有几十。
发表于 2011-10-29 23:37:41 | 显示全部楼层
bryce28905 发表于 2011-10-27 17:11
小弟还有一事不明,ILS降落程序在向塔台请求inbound时,塔台回复head 225 for 7,QFE28```(记不太清了),这 ...


给你看下这个吧~~这个介绍了些,不过是BMS的,不过模拟飞行是通用的,我直接从 LJQC的贴粘贴过来的~~,你读下,会有收获~~

QNH is used when you want to adjust your altimeter to a pressure level.

If you take your Airport diagram\ chart, you will see that there a field elevation. Field elevation is in relation to the the sea level. If your chart says the field elevation is 980 ft ..you are actually at 980 feet above sea level. This makes sense, since you can't be at 980 ft above ground ...while being on the ground ..lool.

Now with the QNH, if on your Altimeter you put in the right altimeter setting you will have 980 feet indicated on your altimeter. Which corresponds to your altimeter setting.

Now when you are flying, when you get above 18 000 ft .... your altitude is no longer reported as altitude but as Flight Level. FL 200 corresponds to 20 000 ft.

When you fly above 18 000 ft , you change your altimeter setting to 29.92 .... why ?

Because 29.92 has been stated as being the pressure in the standard atmosphere, which says that at Sea Level in the standard atmosphere the pressure is of 29,92 Hg and the temperature is 15 degrees Celsius and the air cools down at 2degrees Celsius per 1000 ft.

Thing you have to remember is that whatever QNH you give in, it gives you your height above sea level and not ground !! this is why when you select Radar altimeter to be indicated on your HUD you will have a difference.

Now, why do we set an altimeter setting ? because the standard atmosphere that is used as a reference ... almost never exists. It is very rare actually that it will be 15 celsius at sea level with a pressure of 29.92.

Talking about pressure i mean here the force exerted by a column of air, this gives you the pressure that the air exercess above the ground or the altitude at which you are.

Cold Air is denser than Warm air. For a same quantity of Air, Cold air is heavier than warm air, it also means that cold air exercise more pressure than warm air.

This also means that the pressure of the air that you are going to have in warm air at 10 000 feet is not the same as the one you are going to have in cold air at 10 000 ft.

This means that for two different air Masses ... 10 000ft is not equal to the same QNH on your altimeter.

This is why you have to reset altimeter setting, before takeoff, during navigation below 18 000 ft, during descent\before landing ..to make sure we are not too low or too high.

Remember, above 18 000 ft, everybody has to set 29.92 as the QNH on his altimeter. You are going to tell me that it is not correct, but ... since everybody flies with the exact same "error" ... we are safe.

So again QNH = height above Sea level known as ASL.


NOw the QFE ... if you set that in in your altimeter ... it will indicate your altitude above the airport, so on the ground you will be at 0ft. But it is only useful for the airport ..for landing or taking of, and it only gives you your altitude above the airport ..not above the surrounding terrain .. like mountains. Because if you set in the QFE ..and fly towards a mountain ...even if you fly very low above it ... it will never get near to 0 ft ...this is again not your altitude above Ground, but above airport only ... and this is also why it is almost not used anymore.

I myself never used QFE, but it depends from the countries you fly in. In France they do not use it anymore, they do use QNH.

QNH is in Hg ... and QNE is the same but in hPa ( hectopascals) and since 1 hPa = 1 millibar ...you cans say both.

And 29.92 Hg is equivalent to 1013.2 hPa.

In Northern America we use Hg and in Europe they do use hPa. ....

So to resume it all:

QNH/QNE is the pressure level at which you fly that gives you an altitude. QNH/QNE varies with the Weather, ( low pressure, high pressure ).

QFE .... is not used anymore in the cicvil ..don't know about the military, but i don't think so ..because it is only useful above the airport.

In BMS4, you need to hit the T key twice for a menu to request QNH/QNE at the beginning of you approach.






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发表于 2011-11-1 11:58:13 | 显示全部楼层
楼主要坚持飞50小时五边,飞控绝对没有问题!好好享受飞行中的快乐!
发表于 2011-11-2 12:01:04 | 显示全部楼层
竟然能开翻,牛
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-2 13:18:02 | 显示全部楼层
共和国卫队 发表于 2011-11-1 11:58
楼主要坚持飞50小时五边,飞控绝对没有问题!好好享受飞行中的快乐!

五十小时啊?···这么久···我就飞了两个晚上的五边···汗一个···

主要一直飞五边,真腻人···
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-2 13:18:29 | 显示全部楼层
歼十出击2011 发表于 2011-11-2 12:01
竟然能开翻,牛

发表于 2011-11-2 15:11:05 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Ragnarok 于 2011-11-2 15:25 编辑

五十小时五边?我从没飞过五边,第一次玩lock on的时候飞行控制也毫无问题。我至今仍然不明白为什么要在游戏中飞这么无聊的东西。我想这种无聊的事情是在真实世界中训练飞行员用的。在游戏里飞机随便摔,可以直接进入降落练习,没有失重过载等感觉、没有心理压力、飞行时间不受限制。这种东西简直就是浪费时间损害心理健康。玩模拟飞行需要的是90%的理论学习和10%的练习,我想大部分人把二者的重要性给弄反了。当然,要想学到最正确的而不是翻译的或者留学生教师带回来的理论,是需要懂英语的。
发表于 2011-11-2 17:29:34 | 显示全部楼层
Ragnarok 发表于 2011-11-2 15:11
五十小时五边?我从没飞过五边,第一次玩lock on的时候飞行控制也毫无问题。我至今仍然不明白为什么要在游戏 ...

每个人看待LO的态度不一样而已,有人是为了放松下自己来玩LO,让他花有限的时间去飞枯燥的基础练习完全就是害人不利己。有人是想用LO飞出名堂,不做基础练习怎么成为高手。不同角度看待LO,决定的对待LO的不同方法。比如我主飞的特技编队飞行,没有上百小时的基础飞控练习,是什么都飞不好,最后完全享受不到游戏中快乐。
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